Expand switches portfolio: limited PoE powered small switches + 16 port desktop sized

Hi,

As per @Alta-Matt_v2 suggestion, raising this feature request to see if it gets enough engagement so they consider to increase the Alta Labs switches portfolio

My two cents are focus on home environment:

  • S5: Small fanless switch with 5 ports. One of them PoE IN (AC power should also be kept).
    Similar to the USW-Flex-Mini but integrated into Alta’s management center. 5 ports small switch with PoE in

  • S5-POE: Like the standard S5 (keeping the option to be powered by PoE/PoE+/PoE++) but adding PoE out in the remaining 4 ports.
    Power budget would be higher if device powered by AC or PoE++ and lower (or even zero) if device is powered by PoE+ or PoE.

  • S16-POE-D: Small fanless switch with 16 ports for desktop (-D stands for desktop :sweat_smile:) with 8 PoE+ ports and 60W power budget (or the maximum allowed by form factor and fanless design).
    Similar to the USW-Lite-16-POE but integrated into Alta’s management center
    This suggestion is not mine but from @Cicada (Fanless 16 Port POE Switch for the Desktop) but I fully support it and just bringing it to this “Feature request” forum

So, starting from the bottom the line up of switches proposed would be:

  • S5 and/or S5-POE
  • S8-POE (already existing)
  • S16-POE (already existing)
  • S16-POE-D

What do you think, guys? With nice design I’m quite sure those little fanless puppies would fit on all regular homes, isn’t it? :sunglasses:

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I would love to see a sff quality managed switch become common place. The s8 poe is gorgeous and functional. I am tired of seeing the same tiny Netgear everywhere. I get the need for a sff is necessary, but imagine having a unified dash of every single 5 port in use. Notes, and vlanning and site management. All by color group. You couldnt deploy an easier managed 5 port if you tried.

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It would be great if these came with 2.5GB ports, especially if WiFi 7 APs are on the roadmap.

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I was just doing the mental gymnastics to see how many of the 8 port switches I would need in various places around my flat. The 5 port would have to significantly cheaper than the 8 port though for it to be worth it for me as a consumer.

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I agree.

I’m currently waiting for the Route10 and 2xAP6 Pro to arrive for home use and realize I would most certainly need a small switch to branch of the single Ethernet-cables that I have managed to pull through old phone cable conduits to various locations. One output from the switch would be APs and the rest various wired (mostly non-POE) devices and further deitches. Small (max 5 port) and aesthetic, either POE-powered and/or POE-out would help significantly to minimize the spaghetti of cables and let it be placed visibly and still be accepted by the family. 2.5g would be a great bonus for future WiFi 7 APs and 2.5g PC network cards down the line.

personally until the Route 10 and control software are functioning properly , ZERO intrest in new hardware.

The switches may be useful, if the core routing/gateway and Network Control software offering gets to matching CORE features offered by TP-lInk, Ubquiti. Have already posted about these in my roadmap question, waiting 15th Jan for the update.
https://forum.alta.inc/t/2025-is-there-a-product-roadmap-for-route-10/4208?u=quackers

The key feature, usababilty and functionality need attention and focus.

I want to be able to recommend ALTA stack but until the feature gaps are filled ,its a lab project for me.

I second Quackers post, along with slotted vents on any new products moving forward. The small form factor approach is great, but the heat needs to expel, especially if there’s desire to continue with both PoE in/out and SFP support features.

Please consider rear facing both the Power and ETH ports for anything geared towards desktop placement. Maybe consider one front facing ETH port as an added bonus.

@Quackers @Beaker Route10 is already working great for countless users; features continue to be released; and stability continues to improve. Feel free to nitpick all you want, but you will be missing out if you don’t take advantage of the Alta exclusive features.

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Sorry new to the platform. I setup a couple passwords using altapass and thats working great. Also using upnp strict mode on two devices I wanted accessible since I was having issues with firewall rules, sometimes I could access the devices, sometimes I couldnt but since moving to upnp strict its been flawless. What other Alta exclusive features are there if you dont mind me asking?

AltaPass and industry-leading WiFi performance, UPNP strict mode, and IKEv2 amongst many others. I’m sure our sales team would be happy to point out more :wink:

@Alta-Jeff

To be clear, I’m not going anywhere. I’m committed and here for the long haul.

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Is there a page with these? Some kind of documentation? Id rather read it on my own than talk to sales.

The knowledge base is very limited as it is.

@DN3092 Just shared with you. Feel free to suggest how our KB could be improved, but the web site is where most of the marketing material lives.

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Will wait for the 15th Jan Roadmap Presentation about Route 10, Hopefully this will clarify the what and when.

Id like to see more of the basic features covered as well as documentation of features when they are released. The port forwarding for example was laid out in a way I wasn’t familiar with so I eventually found the answer here in the forums. Still no mention of IDS/IPS features and functions, so we have no clue what each block level is doing.

With that said Im really happy with the performance of the system (route10 and 2 AP pros).

@DN3092 IDS/IPS documentation feature was just barely completed, so documentation is forthcoming. Agreed that a simple port-forwarding document might be worthwhile, but once you know the “colon port” thing, hopefully it’s straightforward.

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Any update on when this documentation will be available?

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Still actively working on it.

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